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Discussing gameplay of some of the new servants this year.

Hello all. As of now, there isn’t necessarily a plethora of info available regarding the performance of this years new servants. Some have rabbit reviews or other small summaries on them & for those that do, oftentimes opinions will differ in threads. Most just have gameplay video on youtube. So to better help myself and others decide on who to save for, Im wondering if any would be willing to give their take on this year’s new servants based off their exp in JP. I’m moreso looking at gameplay perspective. Yeah we can lookup their skills & stats (& i do so extensively & often)but that doesn’t necessarily dictate exactly how well it all works out in practice. So its not so much “if they’re worth the quartz” as much as it’s “is what little info available at this moment ACTUALLY on point?” Guess we’ll start with the closest to us.

I tried to make it spoiler free. There are only 2 servants here with aliases to hide their true name afaik.

Alter egos: Melt, Passionlip and Kiara. Personally, in summary, they kinda seem more like ”nice to have” & not game changers. I’d like Kiara sure, but I understand her NP is weak amongst other issues (Np gain etc)
Lip seems solid but is just basically a tanky tank servant. Nothing crazy.
Melt seems like she can be strong, & gets stronger &...but so are other quick servants who dont suffer from weird ego class affinity or demerits. & Im a quick team fan but.. again, they seem moreso “nice to have” for waifus or what have you. Not absolute standout units in ones Chaldea. Maybe im wrong.

Assassin Wu Zetian: She seems a tiny bit plain, but she does have a 3 turn party quick buff and Imperial privilege. I do like quick teams so Im wondering if she’s any good. Not much info on her other than gameplay videos.

Berserker Penthesilea: shares a banner with Wu? She’s a berserker w/ some support and apparently quite strong. But.. still a berserker so why not just bring an actual support? I have Ibaraki for my red button smashing anyway. Not as squishy. The Wu/Penth chance together may be worth if Wu is better than she seems. Generally good opinions about penth but she really just offers plain charisma the way i see it.

Caster Nero: will be mine.
Rider Artoria P Alter: Will be mine.

Maybe Berzerker Nobu &/or Saber Frank come bc they share banners with Caster Nero? They seem good... ish. Kinda. Not great? Not bad?

Lancer Raikou is amazing and apparently shares a banner with Rider Alter so thats great.

Assassin Osakabehime: Seems like many were disappointed with the first “quick support.“ I do like quick teams though & Skadi is far FAR away so I wonder if she’s really THAT lackluster for now. Especially for those who enjoy quicks. Her kit isnt too bad imo.

Archer Inferno: will be mine.

Okeanos Caster : decent kit. Party debuff cleanse isnt too common. I hear her np gain is atrocious though. Wonder if its really THAT bad to make fielding her for her cleanse & stun redundant. She’s kinda weak too i guess cuz.. Caster.

Foreigner Abigail Williams : she seems legit. Her kit is good, passives are good, single target np & NP effect is great. But again, i hear her np gain is just absolute trash. Can it really be THAT freakin bad with three 6 hits arts? Skill cds a bit long also. & no NPBB chain i guess. I hear a lot of “Hokusai is better & not far from Abby’s release” but it just seems like a comparison between two entirely different servants. Hokusai seems a lot more offensive (but with an aoe NP >.>) compared to Abbys utility/ stall.

Lancer Ereshkigal: seems like a decent offensive support & very popular. But I actually saw that Eresh wasn’t rated too highly in some people’s opinions/lists. I know she’s a favorite though. When you look at her kit, cant lie its kinda just like..... “thats cool I guess.” Better off with a full fledged support imo. Her characters cool though.

Anyone who can contribute their knowledge based off their experience in JP is appreciated. Hopefully others can get info on these future servants as well to help in their decisions & as always remember to roll for your favorites. Thanks & good luck with the gacha!

Asked by A’o5 years 1 month ago
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by Makoto 5 years 2 months ago

Regarding Penthesilea, I think the best of her is that she can both be a DPS and a supportive servant, and she's "surprisingly" good enough at doing both at the same time. For a berserker, her NP gain is just awesome with up to 20% NP per turn on her 2nd skill which also grants her Debuff Immunity, and Charisma + Buster Up is just a really good combination and she has both in a 5 turns CD at max level so she has good, consistent damage and support with good uptime actually. Her NP offers good effects, too, which are very valuable in challenge quests and boss battles, such as Atk down and NP seal.

About Wu Zetian, we do have little info on her, but I feel like she's a little bit of an Assassin Elizabeth Bathory (Lancer Ver.) being some sort of supportive unit with damage potential. The thing I see weak about her is that she has a sort of low atk with Assassin multiplier, and also being quick when Buster is just easier to use. She does have good effects and her skills are actually good enough, but then again, "Why bother?"

Osakabe-hime isn't really bad, the thing that was so disappointing about her being the Quick support is that her Quick up is tied to her NP's Overcharge, that means you need to charge her up first, then use NP (You "waste" a card for just 20% Quick Up) and doesn't offers much else besides the NP charge on her 2nd skill. If you want a higher Quick buff you'd have to put her 3rd on a NP Chain but that means that turn you might waste potential damage and the buffs would only last 2 turns, and she's an SSR so low accessibility, therefore you can't have your own 300% as easily, and she being support with relatively low stats plus Assassin Multiplier makes her a mediocre unit for damage, and not so viable supportive unit. Compare her to Tamamo or Merlin. Both of them have 50% Card up tied to a skill's level so anyone can have that and won't waste a possible Arts or Buster Brave Chain turn. Their NPs have awesome effects such as passive NP, HP and Crit star gain with Merlin, and raw HP and NP gain with Skill CD reduction with Tamamo. On top of that, both of them offer a better Stall potential, with Merlin's Party-wide invulnerability, and Tamamo's NP drain.
In the end Osakabehime isn't bad, it's just that everyone's better than her so again, "Why bother?" I plan to roll a bit for her personally anyways.

And regarding Foreigners, Abigail and Hokusai are quite different servants, Abby has better stall potential and utility than Hokusai and is ST Buster NP with triple Arts, so her damage can be a little inconsistent with less buster cards for the chains and no steroids, and the issue with her skills is that they have long cooldown for values that would make you wonder if it's actually worth it.
Hokusai on the other hand is a solid Wave Clearer with AOE Arts NP which means she has NP refund, her damage and generation numbers are pretty solid with BBQAA deck and actual buffs on her kit, and unique buffs such as Def down on Arts card. Plus, she has more direct survival options with NP batterty tied to an Evade with a CD of 5 turns at max level.

That's the sort of analysis I can give on what I can see on paper, after all, no servant is truly useless and you can make it work. Plus, some of the servants mentioned before got their SQ so they became more versatile or viable in their respective roles.
Hope I didn't many mistakes, feel free to correct me or add more to what I say.

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Penthesilea does not have NP seal though. Other than that, your assessment is correct. I wouldn't say she is good for challenge quests though, unless she has received NP upgrades or grails. She's as fragile as any Servant could possibly be.

You can plan around that, but the best solution is simply more damage. Can't get hit by what is dead. Sadly, that doens't work as well in Challenge Quests. Taunts are a good measure though, as are multiple defensive supports.

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by Fabris 5 years 2 months ago

Abigail remove buffs before hitting, basically Amakusa, but ST. Her ST NP and class being stronger to berserkers is a bane to berserker bosses. also, to the damn chimeras.

Yes, her NP gain is truly attrocitous, which is why everyone prefer Hokusai, who also has better CDs, and also does not have mismached deck (can even arts brave chain). But her first skill is very good, especially if you have Prisma Cosmos/Innocent Maiden. Abby also shares a banner with a ST 4* Caster (something quite rare in this game, Medea, Xuangzang and limited Illya are the only options until wellfare Shuuten), Sheba, who is story locked and can buff arts and buster cards.

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