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Now that Dantes is Meta, everyone loves Dantes x'D

Don't you think the FGO community is a little meta sheep? Like everytime a servant is meta, people search reasons to like them.

Is there any low tier and popular servant? :v

Asked by That F2P madman5 years 2 months ago
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Good thing it's a single player game and nobody cares huh?
It's why people say grail for love and ya know what? They do exactly that.
Sincerely a proud owner of a grailed "Tier 5" Shuten.

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No need to be defensive, i just find interesting that meta plays a larger role than people let's on their choices and favorites.

Congrats on Shuten

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I have seen lv100 Kojirou, Cu Lancer, Billy the kid and Ushi. Not everyone is meta crazy, though it’s safe to say most of us would like a leeway to have an easier time at farming and challenge quests.

And just a side note: having top tier supports allows you more flexibility in choosing favourite dps, who might otherwise not be the best in a vaccuum.

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It's not really like people search reasons to like them. It's quite the opposite.
As stated above: F/GO is a single player, which makes it rather indifferent, if some Servants are meta. People will use them, because they are useful and make farming and/or boss fights easier, which is a legit reason for wanting them.

But otherwise, I don't think people will like a servant more, because they are more useful and vice versa.
Take Iskandar for example. On Gamepress, he is tier 5 and more of a farming Servant. Still, he is one of the most popular Servant.
Same goes for Arturia.
On the other hand: Gilgamesh and Merlin are among the highest tiers and they are, for sure, extremely strong and useful. People use them, because of that sole reason. But a lot of players still don't like them character wise.

For your question: Is there any low tier and popular servant?
If it's about tier lists: Arturia, Iskandar, Shiki (Saber), Angra Mainyu, Hassan of the Serenity, Elisabeth Bathory, ....
There are a lot of low tier Servants that are popular, despite being low tier.

F/GO is like a Waifu/Husbando Simulator. People will still love their favorite Servants. But also use those, that make gameplay easier.
As for Dantes: Personally, I think he is a cool character. Knowing, that he will be really strong in about 1 year just makes him that much better.

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Ishkandar in popular for the anime, BUT...If you check FGO, you will very rarely see one. I just ckecked my mercenary list...70 people, 2 Ishkandars. I also refresh the list a few times looking for other accounts, my conclusion Ishkandar isn't an FGO popular servant. Why? Because he isn't meta, yeah he's everyone's favorite on Fate/Zero...people rolling for him massively because of that? Not really.

Merlin isn't even that interesting like Ishkandar or Gilgamesh, but he's buster memes and half of my mercenary list has him.

I grailed Artoria to 100...but if i think about it, i did it knowing that she will get buffed later. Even for me, Meta has affected my choices in a way.

I never treat this game as a Waifu/Husbando simulator honestly, i actually like the gameplay and the story sometimes (when they go to the point and avoid useless dialogue). Maybe i like FGO for the wrong reasons O.o

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Iskandar not being frequent on friend lists isn't necessarily to say people don't use him themselves. Considering he is limited with only 2 runs so far it isn't a stretch to say a lot of people who want him may not have him. Add that to the fact that Drake is by far the best rider in terms of farming, most players would borrow a Drake with Mona Lisa. That'll get the most fp, so that's what most people will put (if they have her).

And of course people are going to put Merlin on their support list, they know where all the friend points are going. And just saying, but I don't really think Iskandar is that interesting either tbh but that's just an opinion :/

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Add to that, Drake isn't story locked, so it's possible, that she spooks you anytime. So great farmer with high availability. Of course she's going to dominate the support lists.

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by kire 5 years 3 months ago

It's funny that so many people are already preparing for a servant that is still 1.5 years away.. and if they don't manage to get their own Skadi they can forget about the meta.

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Skadi is a long time away but Dantes only has one more rate up banner between now and then (I think) so you do have to kinda consider these things and prepare in advance(I don't particularly like Dantes. Although I got a super success enhancing Babbage-for his interlude- and used one ticket immediately and got Dantes). There's not a big window of opportunity to get him.
Also I'll assume Skadi will be limited so atm, who knows how regularly she'll be on rate up? I certainly cba to check so soon after her jp release.

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Some peoples play this game or grail for their waifu/husbando, some play or grail for memes/jokes, some grail and play for gameplay. Meta players = players who play for gameplay and it's okay, because everyones have their own interest or hobbies.

After they achieve their waifu/husbandos, peoples usually cover their gameplay aspects and it's a nice and balanced things i guess. It's also not a bad things to do that.

Btw, i play for Memes and Waifu/Husbandos. OG Chu lvl 90 and Robin Hood lvl 94 here.

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by Fabris 5 years 3 months ago

Game can be cleared with non-grailed 1-3*s, and there is no PvP/multiplayer function...

Aside from maybe more FP, you get nothing by "following the meta". Chloe and Ridertoki can still solo a lot of bosses in the next subespecies singularities.

As for me, arts crit all day; Casgil, Chloe, Saberlot and Nursery for the win.

Dantes is still cool.

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Another Art user presents !

Art teams all day : Casgil, Chloe, Li Shuwen, OG Nero, Helena, Shiki and D'eon here.

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That's precisely the point. This has no competitive mode, yet people gravitate around meta picks and the broken choices. That's the interesting part, if FGO were competitive we could dismiss it as "they want to stay competitive".

Dante is cool and i tried to roll him last year (failed, cuz gacha is shit), but i didn't saw this many people interested on rolling him back then. More like "Don't roll for him, something something Jalter best Avenger ".

Of course, with this i'm not saying i'm a super hipster and i'm super special because i rolled for Dantes back then, meta has also influenced a lot of my FGO choices.

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The point on Dantes before Skadi debut is spot on. I do remember seeing “Wrong Avenger”, “save for Jalter” everywhere last year.

There are power creeps out there for sure, but it doesnt mean everyone is. I believe a good sum of us roll for favourites over gameplay, with the exception of broken support, because it gives more flexibility in choosing favourite (but “not very good”) dps and still make a viable team. I have a bond 10 grailed Dantes, so safe to say meta be damned, but I do make use of good support like Hans, Mash, Waver to boost the effectiveness/ survivability of my dps. Back then when he was unpopular, I knew that not rolling for him means I might never see him again in support list. Unlike popular units... i lost count of lv100 Jalter in my friendlist, for example...

You might see your friendlist filled with gameplay units, but that does not mean the players do not have unpopular, low tier favourites in their arsenal. I personally put up Ozy instead of my favourite rider Ushi becoz I thought a SSR will be more useful for someone else on a neutral standpoint/ new player. But I almost always run Ushi when I need to take out caster bosses.

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A lot of people do take meta a bit too seriously your right. Personally, I haven't rolled for merlin (don't plan to) and i am not going to roll for skadi either.

I roll for who I want. I have mordred and Amakusa Shirou planned for rolling this year. They might not be "top tier" in meta, but i liked their characters in apocrypha so i'm rolling for them.

I don't completely eliminate it from consideration, as meta servants do tend to generate more in the way of Friend points via support. BUT, I do not base my rolling soley around "meta" servants. It's silly to do in a single player game imo.

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Yeah a lot of people prefer to grail 3-5 stars. It makes sense statistically speaking and also they outnumber 1-2 stars by a LOT... I'm happy to be grailing Asterios and Leonidas but at the end of the day I am getting far less out of it than other players not to mention the level cap increases over time so full 4-5 star team may be possible in the future. I won't remove Asterios or Leonidas since I do like their personality/origin but it's coincidental I don't really like fan-service and most of my favorite servants lore and personality wise are low rarity. Tier-wise it doesn't really matter as long as you get them to work; I know my main team are tier 3 and lower aside from Memelin and Heracles. Dante is tier 5 in this websites tierlist so I am unsure if you are in the JP version with skadi or you are talking about rarity.

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by Aya 5 years 3 months ago

You might have a point if Dantes was meta, which he is not.

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He will be, with Skadi.
AOE Quick NP with multiple hits+Golden Rule+Skadi bonuses=universal farmer.

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He's only meta because Appmedia says he will be. Tbh he's still not amazing without Skadi. He's just the best farmer with two of her to back him.

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"Farmer"...implying he doesn't clear all challenge quests to date a lot more fast and braindead than Gilgamesh&Merlin.

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Well, we don't have Skadi yet, do we.

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Dantes also need 2 Skadi to fully work, a single Skadi can't do back to back NPs or deal any broken damage.
I think Dantes + dual Skadi means ''Universal farmer'' not daily farmer, because they can literally farm almost everything. This would also means, Dantes alone is not meta but Skadi did it for him. Skadi is the true Quick meta, she even can make 2 S + 1 A ( Achilless ) as broken as 2 S + 1 D ( Dantes ).
Skadi can choose any Quick servants that she wants to support but Dantes can't do everything without double Skadi.

Gameplay wise, Skadi > Dantes.
Same with Merlin and Waver.

Dantes is not meta, no Skadi = Dantes is an Ordinary AOE servant.
Merlin is the king of Buster.
Waver is the king of general Gameplay.
Skadi is the Queen of Quick.
Because support is the strongest unit in this game, not Dantes.

Honestly it's really expensive to get a team like this..........getting a single Merlin or Waver is very hard already and some peoples don't even have a chance to get a single Merlin or Waver into their main acc.
Unless you pour some Cash or have EX luck rank, Double Skadi system + Dantes is doable.

Ahhhhh i better start doing dailies with 1-3 stars and welfare servants party then.

Bonus : Scat ass + Helena + Helena is also good XD, it's also a Quick party. Just add a final ingredient, that's summer MC and we're good to go.
For me, getting double Skadi + Dantes is like dreaming or exactly a dream but just a random dream and it's not really important. Since i don't follow the meta, 2 S + 1 D is only optional.

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I think getting 2 SSRs on two years is more than doable. Unless Gacha fucks you extremely EXTREMELY good, which can happen but it would be an exception not the norm.

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So he's just like super "farmer"?

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I didnt even know dantes existed on fgo before a month ago lol, I've found him cool af since i read the count of monte cristo novel years ago and didnt know he was meta since a week ago, honestly i would have rolled anyway. I see what your saying but i still dont see that many people liking him, most people praising him praise his farming potential on JP

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Personally I think it’s a bit silly to roll for Dantès just because he’ll be “Meta” in 1.5 years. Because personally whilst I love FGO who knows if I’d even still be playing it in another 1.5 years, so trying to plan for that far down the road just doesn’t seem worth it. I’d rather just roll for characters I like or if I really cared about Meta I’d go for characters that are gonna always be top tier or close to it like Merlin, Waver, Gil etc... rather than a character that I’d have to wait 1.5 years before he’s at hits his peak. But that’s just my 2 cents. Not hating on Dantès or anything, as a character I don’t mind him and I’ve akways liked the Count of Monte Cristo story so if you actually really like the character then go for it, I just prefer to roll for Waifu’s more is all.

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